Creative Crossroads

Exploring Creative Curiosity: A Conversation with Weaver Kathie Roig

• Catherine Dutton & Ellyn Zinsmeister • Season 2 • Episode 2

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In this episode of Creative Crossroads, hosts Ellen and Catherine welcome weaver and fiber artist Kathie Roig. Kathie shares her extensive journey of over 30 years in the field of weaving, exploring different studios and the evolution of her creative spaces. She discusses her process, from early days working in a small guest bedroom to operating large looms in various studios across different locations, and now working from her home studio. Kathie delves into her experiments with textile techniques, particularly warp painting and double weave methods. This inspiring conversation highlights Kathy's persistent curiosity, willingness to experiment, and the intrinsic joy she finds in the creative process. The episode is filled with valuable insights for anyone looking to explore their own creativity.

00:00 Introduction to Creative Crossroads

00:18 Meet Kathie Roig: Weaver and Fiber Artist

00:53 Kathie‘s Early Weaving Days

03:06 Evolution of Kathie‘a Studio Spaces

05:10 The Impact of Studio Environments on Creativity

06:57 Exploring Different Weaving Techniques

08:15 Community and Collaboration in Art

13:46 Transition to North Carolina

15:56 Weaving in Asheville and Beyond

20:09 Innovations in Weaving Techniques

29:14 Exploring the Art Process

29:22 Retirement and Time Management

29:49 Techniques and Tools

32:28 Starting a New Project

33:05 Inspiration and Experimentation

36:33 Teaching and Sharing Knowledge

37:46 Handling Creative Challenges

42:11 Retirement and Future Plans

46:52 Showcasing Art Pieces

53:55 Final Thoughts and Advice

Thanks for joining us at Creative Crossroads! Keep creating and we'll see you again soon!

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

Hey everybody. Welcome back to Creative Crossroads. I'm Ellen. And I'm Catherine. And we're your creativity ambassadors. We're happy to be back with you in season two, and today I want to introduce to you a good friend of mine, someone I've known for, oh gosh, 30 plus years. Um, this is Kathy Roig.

Kathy Roig:

Hi. Kathy is a weaver and fiber artist, sometimes quilter, and she lives near Columbus, Ohio. And Kathy has. Been the one that has kind of mentored me in weaving and introduced me to it and nudged me along and encouraged me. And I thought it would be fun to hear from her about her creative process. Um, have to tell you, one of the first times I remember hanging out with Kathy, we went back to her house. This is early days in her weaving career, and I was deep in the weeds with toddlers and babies, and she invited me to her house and I walked in and I felt like I had walked into a true artist studio. Like the whole house just felt it was so warm and there were looms and yarn and color and, and it felt so good. And I think that was the first time I thought to myself, oh gosh, yeah, I'm a young mom, but I can still be a creative and I can still. Do artistic things. So, um, we'll talk more about where, where Kathy works and her creative spaces over the years, but that was, had a huge impact on me. Uh, Kathy has exhibited her work and won awards

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

taught classes and all those things. Um, recently was part of a group exhibit and we can ask her more about that and she'll tell us more about that project. But, um, welcome to Creative Crossroads, Kathy.

Kathy Roig:

Well, thank you. I, I don't remember you coming over to my house specifically, but I do remember you asking questions about stuff I used.

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

Yeah. It definitely piqued my curiosity from day one. I, I have a, a distinct memory too, once when you had an offsite studio bringing my son who was. Five. I mean, he was little and he wanted go see Miss Kathy's looms and weaving, and you had a basket of woven like toys that you had made just to sell. And he had a cat that he picked outta your basket that we bought. And he had that for years and years and years.

Kathy Roig:

you, yeah. Actually, I do remember him coming to this, to the studio with my big loom and knowing, I call him Steven, um,

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because that's

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what he was at the time. Uh, he, he was fascinated with all the mechanics of that loom, which. Not everybody is, but then

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those that are

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just like, how does this work? And so I do remember that.

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Yep. He loved it. Of, of all my kids. He was the one that wanted to go and see it and ask questions, so that was cool. Well, maybe we should start there. Talk about the different places that you have called your studio over the years. Some have been at home, some have been outside the home. How are those different? How do those impact your creativity being at home versus being away? Well, you

Kathy Roig:

know, I look back and, I think about my artwork has always kind of evolved into what my life was like at the time. So when I first began weaving, I didn't have a child. Um. I just had a teeny little spot in a guest bedroom with a loom. Um, then, uh, moved to another house and we finished off an attic for my studio because by that point I was weaving more and I was sell, I was doing clothing a lot more and selling at art fairs and some boutiques. And I had worked for a woman who was a professional weaver and just wove yardage for her. So I was hot and heavy into doing that. And we had this, attic that was finished off sky windows. It was a beautiful spot. And then I got pregnant and things changed a little bit. I, I stopped doing the yardage and I stopped doing kind of the production clothing, but I still did some weaving. Um, but you know, a new young baby takes up a lot of your time and energy. Um, so then from that little house. We moved to a, a larger house. You know, my son's now going to kindergarten in first grade, and this particular house that kind of became our forever, you know, our longtime house raising our son. And, uh, that, uh, had, uh, a small little sunroom off our living room that we expanded, um, to make a studio, kind of family room studio. So at that time, you know, my weaving in my mom life was all very connected. Um. The other thing that kind of happened with all my weaving spaces were the looms that I would acquire. You know, like a sower, you start with your basic and then you go, oh, well I want, I want something that has more bells and whistles to it. So around that same time we built this, I got a very large Swedish draw loom, which, um, not many people have or know about. But basically it allowed me

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to

Kathy Roig:

weave designs that I would draw on graph So it was pretty, uh, expansive on the type of weaving that I could do. And where we lived, there was a weaving center and they sold these looms. Um, and a friend of mine, a weaving friend of mine had one and

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she,

Kathy Roig:

uh. Let me work on hers. And so I knew kind of about them anyway, so I got this big, huge loom and it was like in this family studio space and for a long time it just be kind of came a place for Ben, my son, to kind of climb around and little indoor jungle gym. But I did learn to weave on that. Um,

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and

Kathy Roig:

uh, oh gosh, I probably had that space

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and we lived in

Kathy Roig:

the house for 20 some years. But I, I had that one single studio space for maybe five or six years. And then as my son got older and in school more

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often,

Kathy Roig:

um, I felt I wanted to kind of separate the two a little bit

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Mm-hmm. Um,

Kathy Roig:

so.

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I

Kathy Roig:

found a studio space. Um, and it, it was actually in an old hotel. It was in Avon Lake. I know Ellen knows these places, but probably nobody else will. And it was, um, they had converted this old hotel, just a two or three story hotel into studio spaces. And so it wasn't big enough to hold everything, but it could hold my big loom. So I took

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my big loom

Kathy Roig:

and I have a work table. Um, so I could go there kind of

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part-time.

Kathy Roig:

Um, also so that, that lasted a couple years. It was a little isolating. I didn't really meet other artists there. I mean, it was not,

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was gonna ask time for me.

Kathy Roig:

it was kind of nice. I, I wanted to kind of be isolated, you know? I didn't want 25 things happening at once. That was happening at home. Right. Place I I could just go and. Crank up my music. And, um, then, I don't know, probably about, I was probably there as. three or four years or so In the, in the same um, kind of shopping mall. There was a space that opened up and a friend of mine who was in this hotel, uh, decided, well, let's make our own studio with a gallery. So we did that. It's called Studio Esprit. Uh, it was a lot of work. We had studio space in there, but we also sold other craft things and, you know, ceramics all sorts of handcrafted things between me and this other woman. We had already made some connections you know, with other artists. So that was a lot of work and I don't know that lasted, um. A couple years and we realized, you know, we were spending so much time doing the gallery stuff and getting people in because we needed to pay the rent and blah, blah, blah. So,

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I was gonna ask, that probably impacted the amount of time you were able to spend on your own

Kathy Roig:

yeah, I mean, even though our studio, you know, my loom and things were all there to work on, it still required a lot. And, and it was actually, there were four women that started this. And of the four, it ended up being me and this other woman who really did most of the work. And it was, you know, it was one of those, it was a learning experience and

Catherine:

Yeah.

Kathy Roig:

you know, a lot. And it was, it was helping me understand kind of, you know. Having a career, having a business out of the things that I make and how are you going to make money on, you know, um, Not that I was supporting my family, but I was supporting what I wanted to do and the materials and the equipment and, and

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all that.

Kathy Roig:

so that, that became an important part of it. Um, so a couple years late, a couple years later in that endeavor, another friend opened a studio gallery in Oberlin, which is about 45 minutes from where I lived. Um, but it was very good friends of mine and I loved them dearly and we just were, they were artists as well. And in that setting, I was just gonna rent studio space and I could sell my work in gallery. So. Uh, I ended up working a little bit just as a, you know, the checkout girl, but, um, you know, I didn't have kind of the responsibility of running the so that felt really good. And I loved, I loved the people there, and it was a great community. It, it was a 45 minute drive, so that o

Catherine:

Ooh.

Kathy Roig:

yeah,

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that's, that's the one I remember going to

Kathy Roig:

Yeah. Yeah. And I was there for a good long time.

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You were. And it felt like that's where Steven came. Yes. Yes.

Kathy Roig:

that's where he came.

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I was in

Kathy Roig:

in the back of the, yeah. And it was such a, it was, I mean, yeah, the, the women, we had our own little art group, um,

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you know, that cool. We

Kathy Roig:

just met separately, you know, as a group. But, so that was,

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um,

Kathy Roig:

and it was an. They were very encouraging. We, we were all very encouraging for each other to, in exhibitions to try,

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You

Kathy Roig:

know, experiment with things. In fact, one of the women there did a lot of surface design on fabric.

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Mm-hmm. So she worked with

Kathy Roig:

dyes and paints and stencils, and I just, it was all this layering stuff, you know, and I just, I loved all that, but, so I thought, well, how can I

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kind, of,

Kathy Roig:

how can I have that fun on my weaving with all the

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theary

Kathy Roig:

the

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paint? So what it really,

Kathy Roig:

and Ellen will know this, but um, that started me thinking, can I use paint on my warp threads? The warp is the thread that goes on the loom.

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and thought

Kathy Roig:

got this paint and you just, it's not dye, it was paint. You paint it on

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we,

Kathy Roig:

know, and then you heat set it, um, and then you can wash and dry the fabric and it behaved a lot like watercolor.

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So

Kathy Roig:

I tried that. I had, I used

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paint

Kathy Roig:

on my warp and used a hairdryer to dry it, and then wove that fabric. And, um, that I've been still, I'm still doing that similar process, but have grown and expanded upon it.

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And you teach that, right?

Kathy Roig:

It was just this wonderful, you know, there were two quilters in there, uh, that the surface design person, woman did beading and photography, silk painting. So we had all these wonderful, you know. Feeding off each other, so,

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

Sounds

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it sounds like it was just such a great place for community and inspiration for you. Absolutely.

Kathy Roig:

And our studio, so the, the gallery was in the front of this space, I think it was like an old

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pharmacy.

Kathy Roig:

Uh, so the gallery is in the front of this space, and then there were just with curtains, partition studio spaces.

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So they, they weren't

Kathy Roig:

huge spaces. And I was, and there was this back storage room,

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which was where

Kathy Roig:

I was. Uh, but people could, you know, people who came to the gallery could come and watch the artist work, or if you didn't want, you could, you know, close your curtains or whatever. So it, it was a very, um, yeah, it, it, we were inspired by each other and then we were hoping to inspire others. So, yeah, it was a great space. Um. So I stayed there until 2005, which was when, um, my husband and I moved to North Carolina. Um, so that now is a whole new story. So

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I,

Kathy Roig:

our son's off to college. We moved to North Carolina for my husband's work. And, uh, so we were in western North Carolina, near in the mountains, near

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Asheville. Mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

Uh, the first place, the first little town we lived in was called Dillsboro. And it's just, I mean, there were like 200 people in the town, all very mountainy and there were craft shops and it just, another very creative space. And found a studio space, um, in Dillsboro. Located in an old house and there was a gallery. There were, there were, um, three or four buildings in this little area. And there was a craft gallery that had been there for 30 years. There was a pottery studio, there was a jewelry studio and a stained glass. And then this other space was empty by when I was there. And so I moved into that space and that was a huge space. And again, I, I ended up having all my stuff, all my studio was there. Um, sewing. I had, by that time I had three looms. Um, big work table, all my yarn. And I had a little corner where I could sell things'cause tourists would come in to all these spaces. And it was, it was still kind of a business, but it was just me. And, and if stuff sold. Great. But I had other, other venues in that area that took my work, that bought my work wholesale. And so, uh, it was kind of a nice little that way. Um, I loved that space. There was a lot of craft history in the area. Um, so we were there for, uh, four or years or so, and then we moved to Asheville, which was an hour away. Uh, at that point I pretty much established a lot of galleries that sold my work and, and, uh, oh I A lot of galleries sold my work. Um. So I didn't really need to have my own space to sell work. So I, my studio was at home, we were, we bought a house, it was a newer home, uh, in the, like, everything in Asheville, it was built on a hill.

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

It was was so beautiful.

Kathy Roig:

yeah, that, yes, I love that house. The lower level was my studio. Um, and it had its own like a patio, a deck off of it and windows. So it really wasn't a basement. It was, it was the lower level. But, kind of a walkout. Yeah. I had to walk out and we put a sink in

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so that's lovely. I could do

Kathy Roig:

my painting. I did a little bit of dying. So that was, that was a wonderful and space. And, uh, again, a wonderful community, I mean, of not just weavers and textile artists, but all sorts of. Craft people. So very inspiring. And I was in a couple organizations, that supported craft Okay. Then the next move, four years later, again, we moved due to my husband's work. Um, it was hard to leave Asheville for both of us, but unfortunately the job there out. So, but fortunately he got another job in Charlotte, so we moved to Charlotte

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and um,

Kathy Roig:

it's a coup that's maybe hour and a half or so east of Asheville. So not quite the strong community of craft and artists as in Asheville and, and in Dillsboro. But, um,

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so

Kathy Roig:

I kind of wanted to see if I could find a place where I could meet other people and be in a community. And, uh, I lucked upon it. Uh, I found a studio that was, well, so I had space in the house for most of my studio. Um, but I found another place, um, that had studio space and it was like a shared coworking space. So there were offices for some people, but they also had some And that was very nice. I did great folks felt pretty, successful there. I didn't quite have the, uh, many galleries to sell my work there. So occasionally we'd have open studios at this spot. Um, so sell things there, but I still wall pieces, and I was doing a lot of teaching at that this warp painting that I developed. Um, so then five years after that, we moved to, we moved to Dublin, which is where I am now. I'm sitting in my studio, uh, there's a loom behind me there, my sewing machine. You can see yarn, uh, fabric right there. You can't see behind me. There's all sorts of stuff. Uh, and then we have a sunroom off our living room downstairs that I have, um, a floor loom. I got rid of the huge draw loom after I. I sold it When we left North Carolina. It, it's a pretty physical loom to operate and I found I wasn't using it as much, uh, I knew first of all it takes a room it's own.

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And so

Kathy Roig:

we were tired of finding a house for the loom and not something that we wanted. So,

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but anyway,

Kathy Roig:

so we sold it. Uh, and, and also knowing that there were a lot of weavers in the Western North Carolina area and a lot that I knew that it would easier thing to do. So, um, I had that loom for probably 35 years it was a good loom, but it was ready for somebody else to love. Um, so you're back. that. so you're back weaving at home. So I'm back weaving at home. I know. Yeah. And, um, It feels very comfortable and, uh, you know, I'm not selling at galleries. I did place mats and napkins and baby blankets and baby bibs um, I, and scarves and all sorts of stuff. I love making.

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Um,

Kathy Roig:

there's one gallery, um, in the area called the Ohio Designer Craftsman.

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Um, mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

and I still love to make towels, uh, and, uh, so I sell towels there. but mostly I'm doing those and wall pieces still.

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and so. your wall pieces is more, I would say one is more utilitarian, the towels, the bibs, the blankets, and then the wall pieces are more art and Right. Each one is unique and different. Do you enjoy one process over the other?

Kathy Roig:

Um, I've always enjoyed doing both of those I'm working on some towels now on my little loom back there, and it's basic, know, but there's something just very comforting about the familiarity and like, oh, I mean, I do kind of experiment with different colors and warp patterns and all that business, but, um, and I like to use things that I've made and I other people too. it can help me with the technical part, the process part of how mm-hmm. the threads behave, how the loom, how I can set it up most efficiently, uh, how I can make sure, you know, it's just the process that I can, hone in on the art pieces. Um, I'm still painting

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warps.

Kathy Roig:

I've developed different ways to do it and, uh, different, different processes on how to do it as well as different ways to apply the paint, you know. Much do the colors bleed together? How much don't they? I've started using some stencils, on the warp. For another look, I guess. kind of have an idea in mind on what I'm gonna do. You know, maybe it's like, with these stencils, wonder what a stencil would look like on a warp. And so I went to Amazon and you can get these big, like stencils for a wall painting and stuff. So, you know, I got some of those that I liked and, and, um, tried that, uh, you know, let's try this color and let's try that color. and so it was a little bit of trying the, uh, material and seeing what happens, uh, kind of each step along the way. And I've come to trust. My instinct on that, like, oh, I like blue today, so I'm going to use blue and I'm gonna see what that looks like. You know, if I do it this way or what, you know, it's not, um, I don't think about it too much, put it that

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Mm-hmm. So your process, I mean, it's continued to evolve. You never like reached a final, this is how I do things.

Kathy Roig:

well, yeah, I mean, it has evolved. I first started that way long ago at the gallery where all my, my friend was doing the surface design and she had it the, it's called Dynaflow paint, which I mean, it's, you

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get it. Okay. Everybody

Kathy Roig:

knows Dynaflow paint. It's easy to use. And, and, and I had yarn on my Loom unwoven, mm-hmm. that's what I painted. Uh, and I did that, you know, I painted. Dry it, weave that. Then you move the woven thread and you have more unwoven and you paint dry it weave and you just kind of keep that process up. And I, you know, I was doing that for a while and like, well that's kind of fun, but it's kind of like tedious. I wish I could just paint the whole thing that would, you know, that would certainly make life easier. And I could also kind of see a little better, you know, I was kind of making just small things, you know,'cause this was what was in front of me at the Loom Unwoven. Mm-hmm. But if I had the whole warp spread out somehow Unwoven, in the threads, you know, all lined up how I want them kind of under tension so they don't get tangled. You know, and there is a whole process on weaving, you know, you gotta keep the threads in order with across. uh, so, um, when I got to my first studio in North Carolina where I had that larger space, I had like two rooms there, and there was this huge back room with a bunch of tables and I thought, well, I could like put all these tables together and spread out my warp. And so I did. And like, oh, well here's all the threads all. And so, um, I kind of developed a process on how to keep the threads in order and how to keep them under tension. So that was the class that I taught, uh, it's called Wart Paint at Weave It. Um, but it, it is a process on how to get the threads. Even in, in the right order. And then you can paint it and then take that to your loom. Hmm. So then that evolved for me. Um, the threads still kind of shifted a little bit. Um, and I had read somewhere somebody did this and I don't know how they did it, but they had loosely woven fabric. They dyed it and then they took the loosely woven threads out and put that on their Oh, So I thought, well, I might try that'cause that would keep all my threads in order more. And uh, so now, so I kind of developed this process on how I could do that kind of, you know, it's process. weaving, you're doing weaving twice. Weave this real loose fabric, which it, it's, very easy and it takes, it's very quick that comes off the loom paint it, take the loose threads at warp threads going

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put it back

Kathy Roig:

the loom and do the final weaving. um, so do you want me to tell you another part of the process?

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

Sure, I'm really fascinated by that. Yeah. the other

Kathy Roig:

part The Draw Loom gave me this certain type of weaving,

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certain type

Kathy Roig:

of fabric. Uh, there's warped faced areas and weft faced it's a single layered fabric, but there's warp areas and it, there's weft It's called dames fabric. If look closely, you'll see there's threads going this way and threads going that way, and that kind of makes the design. So I sold that, which, you know, that was fine. I was ready to do that, but I still kind of like that interplay of one area and another area being different. And, uh, I'll get a little techie here, but it doesn't matter. Uh, so a, a weave structure that can do that. There are several, but the one I particularly like is called double weave. So that's what I've been doing. Uh, gosh,

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I started doing

Kathy Roig:

of that in Charlotte. Um, so it's, it's two layers of fabric

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Mm-hmm. And

Kathy Roig:

I can determine what layer comes to the surface. So instead of having. A warped face and a weft face. In my draw loom, I have two layers of fabric, and it can be this layer or it can be this layer, and I, I can design that. Cool. Okay. one layer's white and one layer's red, I can have, you know, two inches of white, uh, next to two inches of red, and then they can switch. So cool. So, um, so I thought, well, I wonder what would happen if I painted two layers of this loosely woven fabric and put those together. Mm-hmm. Wow. Because Because I mean, like, traditional double weave, you would design it where you'd have this, you know, red square, white square, red square, white square, right? And it would all be planned out. And you would know this would be the red one, and this would be the white one. But when paint your warp, like. Think watercolor where it's all kind of flowing mix together. and some areas are lighter and darker. Uh, you don't always, you know, I don't always know what's going to, you know, what layer's gonna meet with what layer. So, um, I've, I've, I've really enjoyed doing that a lot lately. And that's, that's that's where I am.

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

So when you do like an, a typical art piece, which I know they're not typical'cause they're all different, um, but they take you a long time, right?

Kathy Roig:

Yeah. I mean, and I, I do, you know, and maybe I, I like for the, up until last year, I called myself semi-retired, but now I'm officially retired. But that, all that means is I don't have the business part I'm doing anymore and I'm not selling at the galleries and all that business. So, uh, so time doesn't matter as much to me, Mm-hmm. And especially with, I mean they, all the wall pieces I've done takes time on the Draw loom. Those even before war painting, those took a long time to weave,

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

So

Catherine:

when we say long time, like how, what's long time, are we looking at months, years,

Kathy Roig:

not years.

Catherine:

Okay. I'm just curious like what the frame is.

Kathy Roig:

I doing a double weave painted warp. So Mm-hmm both layers and I've loosely woven threads. It's a natural color. doing the loosely. I say the process, I'll figure out how long it takes me. Weave the loosely woven warp, take that off, paint it, put it back, you know, take the threads out, it would take a couple months if I wasn't doing much else. Okay. Um, and it, you know, again, like when I did the stencils, I did a, I painted the whole warp with this real loosely or real watered down, um, paint. So it was not very, um, dark in color'cause I didn't want the natch. Mm-hmm. And then I put, then I did the stencil. And so I had to wait, you know, for paint to dry and the stenciling, you kind of had to wait. Before I move the stencil to, so, you know, there's a lot of variation, I guess point.

Catherine:

Mm-hmm. makes sense. Yeah. I

Kathy Roig:

wanna do different layers and sometimes I do, I'll paint, um, and I have it, my, the downstairs here, is unfinished and we have it's actually a great space. I have, uh, utility sink down there and I use, uh, for my, if I want a long, you know,'cause I'm doing like probably four or five yard lengths and I have sawhorses, four sawhorses two of'em hold, um, a hollow door

Catherine:

Okay. For

Kathy Roig:

the surface, you know, for the, and so those are two. They but each other. It's a great, I've had those since. Since we first moved to, um, in that back room in my first studio in North So, uh, it makes a great space. And I put plastic on the table and I paint and use a lot of water. And, um, Where they drop, like if I paint, if I paint in the day and I'm done with it, it's probably, it's dry in the so I don't have to wait forever. Or I can use a hair dryer if I want it real quick.

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So where's your, like what's your starting point when you have a new project? Is it, do you have some kind of prompt, do you have a color palette? Where do you usually start? Different things

Kathy Roig:

like,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

like

Kathy Roig:

these stencils,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

Um.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Was kind

Kathy Roig:

of like, I picked the stencil that I thought, I wanna see what this stencil would do.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Yeah, well,

Kathy Roig:

that, I don't know how that idea got in my head, but I saw stencil somewhere. I don't know. Anyway, um, so that's, that's sometimes it's just the, the product or the thing. Sometimes, um, a lot of times I will use a color like photograph or postcard.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

Uh, sometimes the photograph might mean something. Sometimes it's just colors. Sometimes it's a postcard that I like the colors Um,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

do you use your own watercolors because you do some, some watercolor painting?

Kathy Roig:

yeah.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Um,

Kathy Roig:

I did do one, yeah. Um, I did use one of my watercolors. I, it was in a, one of the slides that I sent you, um, was a five

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

panels

Kathy Roig:

five panel piece called over Story, um, which is the part of the trees that protect the rest. It's like a canopy. And I live near a metro park here, uh, called Glacier Ridge Metro and it's wide open there's fields, Ohio's Flat, but there's this one area where you walk through the woods and I had taken a picture in the fall a couple years ago and the sun was coming through. It was just beautiful. And so I did a watercolor, uh, of that later.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

And then, um.

Kathy Roig:

Not thinking I would use it for one thing or in particular. But then I was asked to be in an exhibition a couple years ago, and I'd always kind of had this thought, I wanted to use one of my watercolors and I'm very interested in nature as a lot of us are. Um, and so I thought, wouldn't it be neat to have these panels kind of like trees and they hung and they can hang in different heights and depths and stuff. So I used that watercolor. It's very loosely based, but

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

You were

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

inspired by it.

Kathy Roig:

You know, having a blank canvas, blank warp in front of you can be like, oh my God, where do I start? So it's you, you need something though. Yeah.

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

I

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

I agree. As I hear you talking, I hear you talk about like, just this curiosity and experimentation and just this approach of, I wonder what would happen if. Yeah. And it's really fun to hear that because I think sometimes people think like, oh, we have to go into our creative process knowing what that final outcome's gonna look like, or knowing what something's gonna, how something's gonna end up. And we often have in our mind, like, if I can't create it, just how it is here, then it's not good enough. But hearing you talk is just inspiring of like, just approach it with curiosity.

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

Have

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

fun with it and see what comes of it. Yeah. Yeah. But were you like that as a kid, Kathy? Um, were you curious and creative?

Kathy Roig:

I think so.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

I think so. I, uh, I was gonna send you my artist statement. I never did, but the first little line

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

in my artist

Kathy Roig:

statement is, uh, I remember, uh. Catching tadpoles in the creek nearby, climbing the tree to read a book and looking at the patterns of my grandmother's quilt.

Catherine:

Hmm.

Kathy Roig:

I mean, that is kind of a, in a nutshell, I, you know, I had a mom in particular, my dad too, that were, pretty, I mean, they were creative in their own way, but they were also not limiting me

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

to,

Kathy Roig:

you know, be curious.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

it, when I, my most favorite thing about teaching this Warp painting class, and I have retired from that. it's a lot of work to do those. I go to conferences and guilds it's

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

just, you'll teach your friend Ellen someday, right? I'll tell everybody

Kathy Roig:

you wanna come, uh, and stay here, we can do it.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Watch a little baseball.

Kathy Roig:

Yeah.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

And, um, but my favorite,

Kathy Roig:

and it's, you know, people, what do I wanna say? This class that I was teaching, it's not traditional, like, oh, you're going to weave overshot patterns and make, uh, place mats.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

A lot of

Kathy Roig:

times I'll go, what are we gonna make? And I'm go, well, you're going to make a piece of fabric that's eight inches wide and two yards long and you'll have painted on it. And I don't know,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

but it is a little bit like

Kathy Roig:

I have to, I mean, they're already there, so there's, they are a little bit ready for some, um, experimenting and not knowing what it's gonna look like.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

But yeah, a little bit of it is, you know, like, I don't know if this'll work. just try it and we'll find out.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Exactly. So

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

so.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Go ahead, Catherine. Do you ever get to a point in that experimentation where you're like, this is not working, and then what do you do? How do you approach those moments, um, for yourself?

Kathy Roig:

well, I'll tell you one ear, which I, I mean, I, because I, I, it was, this is where it didn't work out early

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm-hmm. When I was

Kathy Roig:

experimenting with this warp painting business and I was in the studio, uh, Which had that back room, that had the big space. And there's different types of fabric paints,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm-hmm. As you

Kathy Roig:

might And, uh. I, I thought, well, I'm gonna try this other kind of paint because I like some of these colors and it's a little thicker, and maybe it'll stay,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

it won't move

Kathy Roig:

much because what, you know, the, the dynaflow paint just kind of wicks onto the thread

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

for better or

Kathy Roig:

Um, I mean, you, it is about learning about your materials. So, so I tried this other paint and it went on fine and it's great, and I left, came back the next day, came back in the morning, and it, the whole warp was like all so stuck together. The paint had you know, it was like acrylic. It was too thick

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Uhhuh. And.

Kathy Roig:

So there was no

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

saving

Kathy Roig:

that,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

But

Kathy Roig:

you know, at least I was kind of at the beginning of the process,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Um,

Kathy Roig:

so. So that was like, well that's just, and I've learned I'm not gonna use that paint anymore. So now you've got Dynaflow and here's how it behaves. And you have to learn how, how it moves and how much water you can use, or how much water you want it to use or not use.

Catherine:

mm-hmm.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

wanna

Kathy Roig:

paint the, do I wanna get the yarn wet first and then apply the paint, or I wanna put the paint down and spritz it with water, you know, different things.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm-hmm. Um, so,

Kathy Roig:

so there are many times, and my husband will attest to this because it probably happens every time where I

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

say,

Kathy Roig:

oh my God, this is a,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

This is

Kathy Roig:

terrible. Almost just, yeah, this, I, I, I don't know what I'm doing. It's all

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

Oh,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Oh, we don't care for language here. It's

Kathy Roig:

whole world. And he just looks at me and, and he says, okay, well. outside for a little bit.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

So, um,

Kathy Roig:

so there are times I feel that way, but you know, then I do come back and I'm like, well, maybe it's not so bad, but, or I'll, I can, if I get a clear mind

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

after

Kathy Roig:

thinking I've created disaster,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

um, painting

Kathy Roig:

particular, like, well, I could, if I add water, sometimes you can splotch it with a paper towel. You can kind of remove color. I could add another color. I also know that once I start weeping, the wet threads can change things too.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm-hmm. So, um.

Kathy Roig:

so I don't know if that answers

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

exactly but I kind of, if I,

Kathy Roig:

if I think I've made a complete mess of it, um. I'll just walk away for

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

I love that, that makes sense. But it usually

Kathy Roig:

works out

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

I love that. It does. It sure does. That's so cool. And, you know,

Kathy Roig:

helps if you don't have that already idea in your head, like,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

oh, it has to

Kathy Roig:

to be, it has to be a blue sky in green leaves. Well, maybe it doesn't, and maybe it's not a blue sky and green leaves. Maybe it's, you know, I don't know, a pumpkin patch or whatever.

Catherine:

Mm-hmm.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm-hmm. So,

Kathy Roig:

um, so actually what that, that leads me into,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

I don't always know

Kathy Roig:

what these are gonna turn out to

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

But after the fact.

Kathy Roig:

I'll come, Oh, well that reminds me of

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

you know, oh, that is

Kathy Roig:

like, you know, makes me feel like I'm at the beach So, because some people ask me like, where do I get the, my, the titles?

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

And

Kathy Roig:

um, nine times out of, well, I will say all the time they come after

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Maybe that five

Kathy Roig:

panel piece,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

I might've had

Kathy Roig:

title over story But, mostly the title

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

So, cool with retirement because we know, like as an artist, you don't really retire from being an artist, right? I mean, it's just part of who you're Yeah. Yeah.

Kathy Roig:

what I mean. It's

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

very, yeah. But so now what do you do with your pieces? What's coming up in the future? What are you looking towards?

Kathy Roig:

um, well, and I'll, I'll preface by saying retirement means that I don't have to, I, no, I have my own accountant. You know, Ellen. And, and

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

I know. So

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

do I. Yeah. Yeah. But, um, what,

Kathy Roig:

what that means is I don't have to file sales tax and I don't have to do my inventory and all that business. So that's what really what retired me. So, um, so, uh, what am I doing? I'm still doing wall that I don't always know well, where they will end up.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Um, but there are, they're not, huh? They're not for a specific exhibit or a specific request? Not, no.

Kathy Roig:

I mean there like this Ohio Craft museum, uh, and I, I, it was one of the slides I sent you. I had a piece in it this past year,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

which uses the stencil.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Um,

Kathy Roig:

but they have a show every year and the best of like, so best of 2026 will be coming up, and I like to enter that exhibition. Um, you know, I kind of keep my eye out for other exhibitions to enter. Um, but it still comes down to, I have an idea about trying, what if I try two stencils together on one work or, you know, what if I try this color? You know, so it's still more about,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

you know,

Kathy Roig:

exploring

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

of creating,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

or

Kathy Roig:

if I pick one of my watercolor paintings watercolor sketches and try and do that?

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

so the, um, and the, the, the group exhibition that I had given you. Images and told you about, we're still looking for other venues for that to go to. Um, and so, you know,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

even

Kathy Roig:

I have pieces already, I might wanna do something else instead of some of the pieces.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

and I'm, you know,

Kathy Roig:

like I said, I'm still doing towels, I'm doing towels for family now too. And, um, but what I like about it, it's just

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

like.

Kathy Roig:

it's a much slower pace and I, I'm okay with not a deadline.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

gotcha. And it sounds to me like the actual joy is in the process and the work, not necessarily the end result as much. Yeah.

Kathy Roig:

Yeah. I mean.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

you know,

Kathy Roig:

I have this closet back there that's filled with rolled up weaving so that, you know, it would be nice to have'em out somewhere.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

I was gonna ask, yeah. Do you have hundreds of them stashed away? Well,

Kathy Roig:

not hundreds, but I have boxes. I have, you know, those big Tupperware box or a Rubbermaid of, you know, bits and pieces of fabric from clothing and old, you know, samples and stuff. But, you know, I guess as long as I'm

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

still.

Kathy Roig:

fascinated with the process of it and, and which I am, and I still love to make stuff,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

just, I can't imagine you're not.

Kathy Roig:

I know. Well, and you know, and I did these quilts. I did two quilts that, um, were so much fun.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

So you're a weaver turned quilter. And I'm a quilter turned weaver. I know, I know. It's just,

Kathy Roig:

um, but, uh, it was really a lot of fun and I reconnected with a childhood friend when I moved back here and, uh, she, she just retired as a lawyer, but she's been a quilter years and years and years. And she's a, she just, um, she knows all those little tricks and everything and it was great. And she has all the tools so I could borrow her tools. Um, so that was fun. And I'm doing a lot of embroidery lately. So, um, you

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

know, awesome. There's,

Kathy Roig:

you kind of,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

as

Kathy Roig:

with everything

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

kind of,

Kathy Roig:

it's all integrated with my life at the time,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

that makes sense. that makes a lot of sense. Catherine, did you have anywhere else you wanted to go? I wondered, Kathy, if we could just for a moment go through some of the pictures that you showed, that you sent us Sure. And you could just very briefly, um, talk, talk through'em. Sure. Um, I think that'd be really fun for people who are joining us on the video platform. They can see it. Yeah. Um, let me get back to the beginning of that list. There we go. This one?

Kathy Roig:

Okay. Yeah. So this was a, uh, piece that was in the exhibition called What Do, what Do We Protect? And um, it was a group exhibition, seven other artists, um, it was curated by Andrea Downs. Um, and we all knew each other when we all lived in Charlotte.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm-hmm. Uh,

Kathy Roig:

so I moved away. Andrea moved away. Uh, but she wanted to put this group of artists together. Um, mostly it, and it was right at COVID. So we were zooming and we were just being a support group for each other. And

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

yeah,

Kathy Roig:

the way we decided let's have a group exhibition. Uh, and so that's how this kind of evolved. So in the front, uh, you can see three, uh, there's a total of five panels, and that's the,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

um, uh,

Kathy Roig:

overstory Trees That Shelter. And so this was one that was based on, my watercolor, sketch from the area Metro Parks. And, it, it's a warp painted double weave. So each layer was painted. Um, brought together on the loom, can see squares and rectangles, and that's where the layers change.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

So cool.

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

So like,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

like the parts in here where we kind of see the color blending, that's where it has been painted and it's kind of makes that watercolory

Kathy Roig:

right. So, you know,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

if I put,

Kathy Roig:

if I put blue and I put yellow and they,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

I can mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

add water and they'll blend together, or, you know, they just kind of, it's kind of, you're familiar with what ECOT

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm-hmm. kind of

Kathy Roig:

that effect.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

cool. It's so pretty. It's just beautiful. All right.

Kathy Roig:

And the

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

go back.

Kathy Roig:

in the, the, oh,

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

back.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

The quilt was mine.

Kathy Roig:

that I did a temperature

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Quilt. Oh, the quilt. Okay. Yes.

Kathy Roig:

Uh, so I did a temperature quilt,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Which I was

Kathy Roig:

fascinated with. Temperature quilts. I love a

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

a system,

Kathy Roig:

so

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

I love a system.

Kathy Roig:

I did two temperature quilts.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm-hmm. That quilt

Kathy Roig:

that you're looking at was, uh, so you choose, um, a location and a time, and that was Columbus, Ohio, 2021. And you can

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

go to the archives

Kathy Roig:

get all the temperature high and low per

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

each day for

Kathy Roig:

that year.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

And

Kathy Roig:

was when I moved back to the Columbus area, which is where I

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

I was born.

Kathy Roig:

And then what you can't see is behind you. There's another wall like that. And there's the quilt from 1956. Which was the year I was born. So

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

it's a Oh, cool.

Kathy Roig:

so you can, the idea is, know, how has the temperature changed?

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

And yeah.

Kathy Roig:

so it was very, it was very fun. It was, you know, I chose the color palette, but you know, there's temperature quilts all over the place.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

so,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

impact of that, the impact has changed. That's really the contrast of the two.

Kathy Roig:

yeah,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

yeah. Yeah.

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

That's

Catherine:

so

Kathy Roig:

So I can tell you a little more about the double weave if you want.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Of course. How I came up with the

Kathy Roig:

um, it's kind of techie. Do you want. I'll, I'll tell, I mean, if it, if you think it's too techy, then leave it out. But I, so, um, um,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

on double,

Kathy Roig:

so you have two

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

layers.

Kathy Roig:

layer, layer one and layer two. And I can make each square as wide as I want for layer one or layer Um,

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so

Kathy Roig:

in each

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like, layer one

Kathy Roig:

would, there's, oh, I don't think I can explain it right

Catherine:

That's okay.

Kathy Roig:

And I, you know what? My battery is getting low on my computer.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

That's okay. I just wanted to really quickly look at, um, this one, is this one of the ones with the stencils?

Kathy Roig:

Right. So this is a detail.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Okay. And it's a detail of, is it, uh, this one? No, no. This one? No. You don't need, I, I I don't think I have the Oh, yep.

Kathy Roig:

those the only ones you have.

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Mm-hmm.

Kathy Roig:

Hmm.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

I have one of you in your studio as well, but I didn't Right. Pull that in.

Kathy Roig:

Well that's a D. Yeah, I thought maybe

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I,

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

Let me,

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let me, let me look and see real quick. Maybe I,

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

That's

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

to see. Oh wait, I do have it. Hold on. I do have that one. Hold on. Save image. So

Kathy Roig:

this was the piece that was at the Ohio Craft Best of

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

We do have that picture. It's just not in this download. Yeah, so that's stencil.

Kathy Roig:

Um, and, um, you can clearly see it. So one layer is the yellow background with, um, a stencil. And, um, again, this is double weave. So, uh, I wanted the stencil layer to be a little more predominant.

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so.

Kathy Roig:

Uh, the back of a double weave piece is the opposite. So the second layer is kind of that gray, green,

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stripes.

Kathy Roig:

So

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

yeah. That's so beautiful. And then I was so curious about the dots.

Kathy Roig:

Dots. So those are my temperature rising towels, and I'm making those like crazy. They're still a lot of fun. Um, but they're done on my loom that I have in my, um,

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sunroom. Um, and

Kathy Roig:

yeah, so they're just done on a regular floor

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

loom. It's a, those are so cool.

Kathy Roig:

weave structure called Turn Tate. And, uh, they're so much fun. Yeah. So I've been, I made those and they, the colors coordinate with that, with my quilt, but I also make them in, um, like a turquoise. In fact, I've got a warp wound for some, like a turquoise and a turquoise green. Kind of like your

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

quilt behind you,

Kathy Roig:

Ellen.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Yeah, I was gonna say, I think I probably need some of those in my house.

Kathy Roig:

You

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

You might. It's

Kathy Roig:

called sea, so I like to name my towels. Uh, and the blue and green one in turquoise is called sea glass.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Oh, perfect. I love that. Those sound yummy. Well, we wanna make sure that we wrap up before your computer dies. I know. I'm sorry.

Kathy Roig:

because I

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

I moved. Yeah. Oh, it's all good. We're hitting our hour mark anyways, so, yeah. So do you have any advice for people who are learning to be more experimental and just curious in their creativity, in their creative processes.

Kathy Roig:

You only have to please yourself.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Mm.

Kathy Roig:

You

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

have to show

Kathy Roig:

it to anybody.

Catherine:

Mm-hmm.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Um,

Kathy Roig:

and, you know, be brave. but yeah, you only have to please yourself. And, to be brave to learn about, especially in weaving and quilting and the textile, or to,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

to,

Kathy Roig:

to, experiment with your material that you enjoy handling, whatever that

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

might be. Mm-hmm.

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

I love

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

it. I love that. Thanks, Kathy.

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

You're

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

the best. You're welcome. This has been, I have so enjoyed listening to you and

Kathy Roig:

Oh,

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

like

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

seeing like your curiosity and your willingness to experiment has just been, it's been a validating for me and just really enjoyable. So thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us today.

Ellyn Zinsmeister:

Thanks,

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

Kathy. Okay,

Kathy Roig:

Thank you.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

We really appreciate you. Thank you so much.

Kathy Roig:

I'll if you need anything else.

Kathie Roig_ Creative Crossroads Podcast Interview_default_34e925c2:

will do.

Kathy Roig:

Okay, bye-Bye.

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